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OM606 Turbo going into '95 W124

OM606 Turbo going into '95 W124

 
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WDiesel
K26-2

27
01-24-2017, 08:04 PM #1
Long time coming, reached 425k miles on the OM606 NA, finally got the turbo block in and beginning the swap.

Researching driveline solutions, I would like to go 5 speed, 6 speed manual would be even better.

From what I've found so far mercedes options aren't the strongest? Is the clutch the only weak part?

Consequently I've been looking at a BMW box with an adapter plate - I wouldn't mind a MErcedes option that bolts up however.
WDiesel
01-24-2017, 08:04 PM #1

Long time coming, reached 425k miles on the OM606 NA, finally got the turbo block in and beginning the swap.

Researching driveline solutions, I would like to go 5 speed, 6 speed manual would be even better.

From what I've found so far mercedes options aren't the strongest? Is the clutch the only weak part?

Consequently I've been looking at a BMW box with an adapter plate - I wouldn't mind a MErcedes option that bolts up however.

erx
w202 om606

323
01-25-2017, 02:12 PM #2
What power are you looking for?
erx
01-25-2017, 02:12 PM #2

What power are you looking for?

WDiesel
K26-2

27
01-27-2017, 04:26 PM #3
I want the car to be streetable without too much turbo lag. I was thinking an 8mm pump, but realistically it may not be the best for my scenario. I am in Southern California and do a lot of freeway driving - so maybe it wouldn't be an issue but I'm actually leaning towards a 7.5mm pump.

Compound turbos seem like a good option to cut black smoke and lag, but I've not ruled out a good tuned single.

Now I'm looking for the best option for a transmision
WDiesel
01-27-2017, 04:26 PM #3

I want the car to be streetable without too much turbo lag. I was thinking an 8mm pump, but realistically it may not be the best for my scenario. I am in Southern California and do a lot of freeway driving - so maybe it wouldn't be an issue but I'm actually leaning towards a 7.5mm pump.

Compound turbos seem like a good option to cut black smoke and lag, but I've not ruled out a good tuned single.

Now I'm looking for the best option for a transmision

erx
w202 om606

323
01-27-2017, 04:50 PM #4
Are you planning over 600hp? If not then you definitely don't need 8mm. Dieselmeken can tune your RS203 pump from 606 na to 190cc with 7.5mm elements which means over 700hp. Even HX52 couldn't handle this. You can look for transmission after you have decided how far you go with hp.
This post was last modified: 01-27-2017, 04:52 PM by erx.
erx
01-27-2017, 04:50 PM #4

Are you planning over 600hp? If not then you definitely don't need 8mm. Dieselmeken can tune your RS203 pump from 606 na to 190cc with 7.5mm elements which means over 700hp. Even HX52 couldn't handle this. You can look for transmission after you have decided how far you go with hp.

WDiesel
K26-2

27
01-27-2017, 06:20 PM #5
That's sound advice. I just read your build thread, very cool and informative. 183mph???? That's impressive, congrats.

I'll take a lesson from you and go for a 7.5mm pump, aiming for over 600 horse.
WDiesel
01-27-2017, 06:20 PM #5

That's sound advice. I just read your build thread, very cool and informative. 183mph???? That's impressive, congrats.

I'll take a lesson from you and go for a 7.5mm pump, aiming for over 600 horse.

Mr_Robs
GT2256V

124
02-03-2017, 11:37 AM #6
I have a bmw box re welded for an OM606 with clutch flywheel and pressure plate up in norcal for sale. I ended up deciding to go automatic in the end. I also have a BMW diff w/ factory LSD if you want to upgrade that too.
Mr_Robs
02-03-2017, 11:37 AM #6

I have a bmw box re welded for an OM606 with clutch flywheel and pressure plate up in norcal for sale. I ended up deciding to go automatic in the end. I also have a BMW diff w/ factory LSD if you want to upgrade that too.

WDiesel
K26-2

27
05-09-2017, 01:13 AM #7
Hey Mr_Robs, thanks for that - and sorry for delay in response. Your build thread is awesome!

erx - thanks for your advise so far!

*Update*
I got a 716.xxx 6 speed gearbox from a w203 and a sprinter single mass flywheel kit. There's someone running 500bhp to the wheels from a om606 powered w124 with a Mercedes gear box - I also really wanted to keep the driveline Mercedes. A cherry on top would be to relocate the parking brake to a hand brake.

Anyone know if the transmission cross member from the e400/r129 will bolt to an e300d chassis? The 6 speed box I'm swapping in uses the same mount. I'll likely weld and modify the existing cross member. The e400 option does appear more rigid.

To deal with the turbo block sump clearance issue on the w124 chassis I was planning on swapping in an R129 bar as I've found they fit. Another option is to install the sump pan from the 95 na on the turbo motor. I'd prefer to keep the turbo sump as it doesn't have the extra oil cooler off to the side of the sump, which also means less gaskets down there to worry about.
WDiesel
05-09-2017, 01:13 AM #7

Hey Mr_Robs, thanks for that - and sorry for delay in response. Your build thread is awesome!

erx - thanks for your advise so far!

*Update*
I got a 716.xxx 6 speed gearbox from a w203 and a sprinter single mass flywheel kit. There's someone running 500bhp to the wheels from a om606 powered w124 with a Mercedes gear box - I also really wanted to keep the driveline Mercedes. A cherry on top would be to relocate the parking brake to a hand brake.

Anyone know if the transmission cross member from the e400/r129 will bolt to an e300d chassis? The 6 speed box I'm swapping in uses the same mount. I'll likely weld and modify the existing cross member. The e400 option does appear more rigid.

To deal with the turbo block sump clearance issue on the w124 chassis I was planning on swapping in an R129 bar as I've found they fit. Another option is to install the sump pan from the 95 na on the turbo motor. I'd prefer to keep the turbo sump as it doesn't have the extra oil cooler off to the side of the sump, which also means less gaskets down there to worry about.

WDiesel
K26-2

27
05-15-2017, 08:39 PM #8
Here's a short video showing the wear line from the stock OEM rear main seal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4thCW5QFnk
WDiesel
05-15-2017, 08:39 PM #8

Here's a short video showing the wear line from the stock OEM rear main seal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4thCW5QFnk

WDiesel
K26-2

27
09-03-2017, 08:54 PM #9
Finally got the block in!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZICsfdt1go

Can anyone tell me the name of this part on the bottom of the transmission?

[Image: YbgFmi]

https://flic.kr/p/YbgFmi
This post was last modified: 09-03-2017, 08:55 PM by WDiesel.
WDiesel
09-03-2017, 08:54 PM #9

Finally got the block in!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZICsfdt1go

Can anyone tell me the name of this part on the bottom of the transmission?

[Image: YbgFmi]

https://flic.kr/p/YbgFmi

WDiesel
K26-2

27
09-04-2017, 09:17 AM #10
Bump?
WDiesel
09-04-2017, 09:17 AM #10

Bump?

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
09-05-2017, 03:53 PM #11
Still got the trans? Is the x5 diesel?

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
09-05-2017, 03:53 PM #11

Still got the trans? Is the x5 diesel?


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

WDiesel
K26-2

27
10-27-2017, 12:17 PM #12
Not sure what you mean winmutt - I do not have the old trans if that's what you're asking.

Here's the most recent update video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDQ0aHrXzsU
WDiesel
10-27-2017, 12:17 PM #12

Not sure what you mean winmutt - I do not have the old trans if that's what you're asking.

Here's the most recent update video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDQ0aHrXzsU

WDiesel
K26-2

27
11-09-2017, 06:37 PM #13
Got the trans crossmember back!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQbnibtX3Gw
WDiesel
11-09-2017, 06:37 PM #13

Got the trans crossmember back!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQbnibtX3Gw

WDiesel
K26-2

27
11-13-2017, 07:56 AM #14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwROpHr4ALo

Got the xmeber bolted i!
WDiesel
11-13-2017, 07:56 AM #14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwROpHr4ALo

Got the xmeber bolted i!

WDiesel
K26-2

27
11-15-2017, 03:50 PM #15
A video showing the next ssteps: shift linkage mount, slip yoke lengthening and the hand brake. I've seen some good looking handbrakes from old Porsche - I'll keep you posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxD78FngvdI

I've also picked up a sponsor - if you are inclined to day any shopping for every day carry items check out the link in the video bio. Thanks all for watching and shooting me questions, feedback and suggestions
WDiesel
11-15-2017, 03:50 PM #15

A video showing the next ssteps: shift linkage mount, slip yoke lengthening and the hand brake. I've seen some good looking handbrakes from old Porsche - I'll keep you posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxD78FngvdI

I've also picked up a sponsor - if you are inclined to day any shopping for every day carry items check out the link in the video bio. Thanks all for watching and shooting me questions, feedback and suggestions

WDiesel
K26-2

27
03-30-2018, 09:14 PM #16
Got the handbrake and trans shifter mounting points welded in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPPv1doV6Cg

Here's a link to a playlist of 20 + videos cataloging the process of the build so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AmRxrf8...1kpXPzX4i1
WDiesel
03-30-2018, 09:14 PM #16

Got the handbrake and trans shifter mounting points welded in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPPv1doV6Cg

Here's a link to a playlist of 20 + videos cataloging the process of the build so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AmRxrf8...1kpXPzX4i1

W140
Naturally-aspirated

2
04-05-2018, 06:09 PM #17
will the stock gearbox handle well with modded om606 ?
W140
04-05-2018, 06:09 PM #17

will the stock gearbox handle well with modded om606 ?

WDiesel
K26-2

27
04-17-2018, 06:56 PM #18
Sorry for delay -- from what I've found online it should be ok - either way sub to my youtube if you want to see (I'm more active there) cause if it breaks I'll throw a video up there
WDiesel
04-17-2018, 06:56 PM #18

Sorry for delay -- from what I've found online it should be ok - either way sub to my youtube if you want to see (I'm more active there) cause if it breaks I'll throw a video up there

WDiesel
K26-2

27
04-19-2018, 12:39 PM #19
I found a shop to shorten the front driveshaft locally, they also regularly service shafts by mail

https://youtu.be/FyVxWR13NOw
WDiesel
04-19-2018, 12:39 PM #19

I found a shop to shorten the front driveshaft locally, they also regularly service shafts by mail

https://youtu.be/FyVxWR13NOw

WDiesel
K26-2

27
05-13-2018, 04:10 PM #20
No mod front driveshaft option:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEBOMbLW6eg

and answer a few questions about shifter, pedal and hand brake mount
WDiesel
05-13-2018, 04:10 PM #20

No mod front driveshaft option:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEBOMbLW6eg

and answer a few questions about shifter, pedal and hand brake mount

WDiesel
K26-2

27
05-30-2018, 01:08 AM #21
Here's what the intercooler setup is looking like so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8luQQ1rPZQ
WDiesel
05-30-2018, 01:08 AM #21

Here's what the intercooler setup is looking like so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8luQQ1rPZQ

WDiesel
K26-2

27
06-15-2018, 12:52 PM #22
Intercooler mounted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsgoA9q1mOc

Check out my build:
 https://bit.ly/2sisie9
WDiesel
06-15-2018, 12:52 PM #22

Intercooler mounted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsgoA9q1mOc


Check out my build:
 https://bit.ly/2sisie9

WDiesel
K26-2

27
10-30-2018, 10:52 PM #23
Here's a quick vid of the car running:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbRbuBKRio8

I relocated the oil cooler and am making the intercooler mount more minimal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NcctMudjck

Check out my build:
 https://bit.ly/2sisie9
WDiesel
10-30-2018, 10:52 PM #23

Here's a quick vid of the car running:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbRbuBKRio8

I relocated the oil cooler and am making the intercooler mount more minimal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NcctMudjck


Check out my build:
 https://bit.ly/2sisie9

 
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