Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2
Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2
02-18-2017, 12:07 PM
#254
(02-18-2017, 08:37 AM)jupel Hi Ole! Is it possible, to take signal from abs on old revision controller? I try to make it, but it work unstable, and as i see the signal from abs sensor must be divided by 3? Can you help to solve it?
Hi
Yes no-matter how old the controller is you can connect it to ABS, sensor
But correct the newest ones has a real automotive ABS sensor chip that is used for both external Speed and RPM, that is more immune to noise then the older type.
If the speed show 3 times to much, you goto
"Setup Parameters" -> "External speed %" standart is 100 set it to 33
Then test and see if it fits,
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(02-18-2017, 08:37 AM)jupel Hi Ole! Is it possible, to take signal from abs on old revision controller? I try to make it, but it work unstable, and as i see the signal from abs sensor must be divided by 3? Can you help to solve it?
Hi
Yes no-matter how old the controller is you can connect it to ABS, sensor
But correct the newest ones has a real automotive ABS sensor chip that is used for both external Speed and RPM, that is more immune to noise then the older type.
If the speed show 3 times to much, you goto
"Setup Parameters" -> "External speed %" standart is 100 set it to 33
Then test and see if it fits,
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
02-21-2017, 02:19 PM
#255
(02-18-2017, 12:07 PM)olefejer(02-18-2017, 08:37 AM)jupel Hi Ole! Is it possible, to take signal from abs on old revision controller? I try to make it, but it work unstable, and as i see the signal from abs sensor must be divided by 3? Can you help to solve it?
Hi
Yes no-matter how old the controller is you can connect it to ABS, sensor
But correct the newest ones has a real automotive ABS sensor chip that is used for both external Speed and RPM, that is more immune to noise then the older type.
If the speed show 3 times to much, you goto
"Setup Parameters" -> "External speed %" standart is 100 set it to 33
Then test and see if it fits,
thanks, i've got a lost connection, and fix it
and one more question: how about firmware update for old version with lcd displays and led gear indicator? it would be nice to have voltage relate firmness. Because i'm not want to have oled gear indicator in old car, in w124 is bad look. and install display in ashtray, look nice.
and how about trans lock setting, i want to set speed for each gear separately, is it possible?
(02-18-2017, 12:07 PM)olefejer(02-18-2017, 08:37 AM)jupel Hi Ole! Is it possible, to take signal from abs on old revision controller? I try to make it, but it work unstable, and as i see the signal from abs sensor must be divided by 3? Can you help to solve it?
Hi
Yes no-matter how old the controller is you can connect it to ABS, sensor
But correct the newest ones has a real automotive ABS sensor chip that is used for both external Speed and RPM, that is more immune to noise then the older type.
If the speed show 3 times to much, you goto
"Setup Parameters" -> "External speed %" standart is 100 set it to 33
Then test and see if it fits,
thanks, i've got a lost connection, and fix it
and one more question: how about firmware update for old version with lcd displays and led gear indicator? it would be nice to have voltage relate firmness. Because i'm not want to have oled gear indicator in old car, in w124 is bad look. and install display in ashtray, look nice.
and how about trans lock setting, i want to set speed for each gear separately, is it possible?
02-22-2017, 01:16 PM
#256
(02-21-2017, 02:19 PM)jupelHi(02-18-2017, 12:07 PM)olefejer(02-18-2017, 08:37 AM)jupel Hi Ole! Is it possible, to take signal from abs on old revision controller? I try to make it, but it work unstable, and as i see the signal from abs sensor must be divided by 3? Can you help to solve it?
Hi
Yes no-matter how old the controller is you can connect it to ABS, sensor
But correct the newest ones has a real automotive ABS sensor chip that is used for both external Speed and RPM, that is more immune to noise then the older type.
If the speed show 3 times to much, you goto
"Setup Parameters" -> "External speed %" standart is 100 set it to 33
Then test and see if it fits,
thanks, i've got a lost connection, and fix it
and one more question: how about firmware update for old version with lcd displays and led gear indicator? it would be nice to have voltage relate firmness. Because i'm not want to have oled gear indicator in old car, in w124 is bad look. and install display in ashtray, look nice.
and how about trans lock setting, i want to set speed for each gear separately, is it possible?
If you want to keep the 4 Line older style display, i do not do software update for that anymore.
Well voltage related firmness is only relevant if you voltage is different, from time to time and in a normal car that is running you have 13-14 Volt at controller.
But is is an advantage for me when i ship it out, to many different cars, nomatter if it has 12V or 14V it will as default shift almost the same, way.
Trans lock setting is like this you set the lockup speed you want in 5 gear, then that correspont to a specific RPM that is used in any other gear if you have set the controller to lockup in 2-4 gear also. So sorry no it is not possible to have different Lockup RPM in different gear.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(02-21-2017, 02:19 PM)jupelHi(02-18-2017, 12:07 PM)olefejer(02-18-2017, 08:37 AM)jupel Hi Ole! Is it possible, to take signal from abs on old revision controller? I try to make it, but it work unstable, and as i see the signal from abs sensor must be divided by 3? Can you help to solve it?
Hi
Yes no-matter how old the controller is you can connect it to ABS, sensor
But correct the newest ones has a real automotive ABS sensor chip that is used for both external Speed and RPM, that is more immune to noise then the older type.
If the speed show 3 times to much, you goto
"Setup Parameters" -> "External speed %" standart is 100 set it to 33
Then test and see if it fits,
thanks, i've got a lost connection, and fix it
and one more question: how about firmware update for old version with lcd displays and led gear indicator? it would be nice to have voltage relate firmness. Because i'm not want to have oled gear indicator in old car, in w124 is bad look. and install display in ashtray, look nice.
and how about trans lock setting, i want to set speed for each gear separately, is it possible?
If you want to keep the 4 Line older style display, i do not do software update for that anymore.
Well voltage related firmness is only relevant if you voltage is different, from time to time and in a normal car that is running you have 13-14 Volt at controller.
But is is an advantage for me when i ship it out, to many different cars, nomatter if it has 12V or 14V it will as default shift almost the same, way.
Trans lock setting is like this you set the lockup speed you want in 5 gear, then that correspont to a specific RPM that is used in any other gear if you have set the controller to lockup in 2-4 gear also. So sorry no it is not possible to have different Lockup RPM in different gear.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
05-18-2017, 05:32 AM
#258
Tachometer signal output would be very useful. Ole, think about it.
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It`s for speedometer.
Tachometer signal output would be very useful. Ole, think about it.
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05-19-2017, 04:14 PM
#260
Just to make things clear
I have Input to TCU
EXT Rpm is signal from Flywheel sensor to give TCU controller correct Engine RPM all the time.
EXT Speed is signal from eventual ABS sensor or any other speed sensor to give speed of the car. to the TCU controller
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/rpmkmin.html
Output
"Tacho out" is a failure by me, it should have said Speedo out, as it can drive a speedometer, Sorry for that confusion
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/speedoout.html
This typo is corrected on new controllers
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
Hi
Just to make things clear
I have Input to TCU
EXT Rpm is signal from Flywheel sensor to give TCU controller correct Engine RPM all the time.
EXT Speed is signal from eventual ABS sensor or any other speed sensor to give speed of the car. to the TCU controller
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/rpmkmin.html
Output
"Tacho out" is a failure by me, it should have said Speedo out, as it can drive a speedometer, Sorry for that confusion
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/speedoout.html
This typo is corrected on new controllers
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
05-20-2017, 02:19 AM
#261
Installation of the controller was very straight forward. The display housing looks great!
![[Image: 20170517_1704481_zps55wci9e6.jpg]](http://s1324.photobucket.com/user/Iepe_Visser/media/20170517_1704481_zps55wci9e6.jpg.html)
(05-19-2017, 04:14 PM)olefejer Hi
Just to make things clear
I have Input to TCU
EXT Rpm is signal from Flywheel sensor to give TCU controller correct Engine RPM all the time.
EXT Speed is signal from eventual ABS sensor or any other speed sensor to give speed of the car. to the TCU controller
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/rpmkmin.html
Output
"Tacho out" is a failure by me, it should have said Speedo out, as it can drive a speedometer, Sorry for that confusion
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/speedoout.html
This typo is corrected on new controllers
Again, THANKS!
Installation of the controller was very straight forward. The display housing looks great!
(05-19-2017, 04:14 PM)olefejer Hi
Just to make things clear
I have Input to TCU
EXT Rpm is signal from Flywheel sensor to give TCU controller correct Engine RPM all the time.
EXT Speed is signal from eventual ABS sensor or any other speed sensor to give speed of the car. to the TCU controller
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/rpmkmin.html
Output
"Tacho out" is a failure by me, it should have said Speedo out, as it can drive a speedometer, Sorry for that confusion
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/speedoout.html
This typo is corrected on new controllers
06-25-2017, 04:00 PM
#262
Kind Regards
Fred
Hi Ole, I'm a complete noob when it comes to automatic transmissions. I'm planning on putting an om606 with 722.626 in a Land Rover 110. Only Mercedes parts will be engine and gearbox. I presume there are detailed instructions when you purchase your controller?
Kind Regards
Fred
06-30-2017, 03:37 PM
#263
(06-25-2017, 04:00 PM)606110 Hi Ole, I'm a complete noob when it comes to automatic transmissions. I'm planning on putting an om606 with 722.626 in a Land Rover 110. Only Mercedes parts will be engine and gearbox. I presume there are detailed instructions when you purchase your controller?
Kind Regards
Fred
Hi Fred
Yes i have detailed information on my website. or write email for help.
But if you mount the 622.6 and get the controller from me,
I comes with wiring harness,
Plug in big gearbox plug in to gearbox.
Plug Gear Lever plug in to Gearlever.
Mount a TPS sensor (Trottle Position Sensor), as i need to know the trottle to know how hard to shift.
Supply +12V and Ground.
That's it then you should be ready for first testdrive.
Then later you can
Add external speed from the car, ex from an ABS sensor or something.
Ole
This post was last modified: 06-30-2017, 03:38 PM by olefejer.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(06-25-2017, 04:00 PM)606110 Hi Ole, I'm a complete noob when it comes to automatic transmissions. I'm planning on putting an om606 with 722.626 in a Land Rover 110. Only Mercedes parts will be engine and gearbox. I presume there are detailed instructions when you purchase your controller?
Kind Regards
Fred
Hi Fred
Yes i have detailed information on my website. or write email for help.
But if you mount the 622.6 and get the controller from me,
I comes with wiring harness,
Plug in big gearbox plug in to gearbox.
Plug Gear Lever plug in to Gearlever.
Mount a TPS sensor (Trottle Position Sensor), as i need to know the trottle to know how hard to shift.
Supply +12V and Ground.
That's it then you should be ready for first testdrive.
Then later you can
Add external speed from the car, ex from an ABS sensor or something.
Ole
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
08-01-2017, 02:49 PM
#265
(07-04-2017, 04:20 PM)ross Ole,
Is the controller capable of controlling boost on a compound setup?
Hi yes it can be used to control Compound, but there is so many ways to control them.
I have in total 4 PWM output that can be used to control vaccumvalve.
they can be controlled from 2 different boost sensors, RPM, Km/h, TPS.
This is output 1 (Not shown im PWM mode but should give an idea how it works.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULEGavGRavs
Also put in extra picture's on the Boost page on my homepage, scroll down to the end of this page.
Here you see the 4 picture showing witch input is used for the 4 output.
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/boostcontrol.html
This post was last modified: 08-02-2017, 11:21 AM by olefejer.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(07-04-2017, 04:20 PM)ross Ole,
Is the controller capable of controlling boost on a compound setup?
Hi yes it can be used to control Compound, but there is so many ways to control them.
I have in total 4 PWM output that can be used to control vaccumvalve.
they can be controlled from 2 different boost sensors, RPM, Km/h, TPS.
This is output 1 (Not shown im PWM mode but should give an idea how it works.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULEGavGRavs
Also put in extra picture's on the Boost page on my homepage, scroll down to the end of this page.
Here you see the 4 picture showing witch input is used for the 4 output.
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/boostcontrol.html
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
08-03-2017, 03:49 PM
#266
Finally i also now support the Tiptronic shifter PRND+/-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyvh2pa4d8A
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/gearlever.html
But
The boltpatterne is different from the PRND4321 tybe.
This means the Tiptronic shifter is not bolt on to
W463 G Class and W124 E class. as the PRND4321 is. just so that you know.
But it will fit the Wood trim, so a little creativity and it can be used in those cars also.
Also thanks to Baldur for the help. :-)
.
This post was last modified: 08-03-2017, 03:50 PM by olefejer.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
Hi
Finally i also now support the Tiptronic shifter PRND+/-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyvh2pa4d8A
http://ofgear.dk/userguide/gearlever.html
But
The boltpatterne is different from the PRND4321 tybe.
This means the Tiptronic shifter is not bolt on to
W463 G Class and W124 E class. as the PRND4321 is. just so that you know.
But it will fit the Wood trim, so a little creativity and it can be used in those cars also.
Also thanks to Baldur for the help. :-)
.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
11-30-2017, 02:31 PM
#267
i´m a customer from germany and i have a question about your controller.
My car has the 722.636 in it and now i´m in to finish the harness and set up the controller/ ecu.
I have a 722.643 (Speedshift version E55 Kompressor) transmission sitting here. to rebuild it as a spare one.
Does it makes a difference if i will use the 636 or the 643 Speedshift transmission with your controller?
We can set up the shift pressure so is it possible to set the shifting speed too?
Thanks for your help mate.
This post was last modified: 12-05-2017, 07:20 PM by s1984.
Hey Ole Fejer,
i´m a customer from germany and i have a question about your controller.
My car has the 722.636 in it and now i´m in to finish the harness and set up the controller/ ecu.
I have a 722.643 (Speedshift version E55 Kompressor) transmission sitting here. to rebuild it as a spare one.
Does it makes a difference if i will use the 636 or the 643 Speedshift transmission with your controller?
We can set up the shift pressure so is it possible to set the shifting speed too?
Thanks for your help mate.
12-05-2017, 08:12 AM
#268
Evgeniy1987
12-05-2017, 08:12 AM #268722.363 is not an electronically controlled transmission, Ole's controller is meant for the 722.6xx transmissions.
12-06-2017, 02:56 AM
#270
As far as I am informed, the control part of these transmissions is similar.. the differences are in the power transmitting hardware.. clutches, brakes, gears..
Evgeniy1987
12-06-2017, 02:56 AM #270http://www.all-trans.by/assets/site/file...22.6.1.pdf
As far as I am informed, the control part of these transmissions is similar.. the differences are in the power transmitting hardware.. clutches, brakes, gears..
12-06-2017, 12:53 PM
#271
(11-30-2017, 02:31 PM)s1984 Hey Ole Fejer,
i´m a customer from germany and i have a question about your controller.
My car has the 722.636 in it and now i´m in to finish the harness and set up the controller/ ecu.
I have a 722.643 (Speedshift version E55 Kompressor) transmission sitting here. to rebuild it as a spare one.
Does it makes a difference if i will use the 636 or the 643 Speedshift transmission with your controller?
We can set up the shift pressure so is it possible to set the shifting speed too?
Thanks for your help mate.
Hi
Correct as what Evgenjy1987 wrote, the initial setup is the same.
A harder shift is an faster shift, you can not set the shift time, you can set how hard the shift should be.
But please do not adjust anything before first test drive. only setup TPS to go from 0-100% thats it then do testdrive.
And do not adjust firmness before you are at gearbox temp between 60-80.
Ole
This post was last modified: 12-06-2017, 12:54 PM by olefejer.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(11-30-2017, 02:31 PM)s1984 Hey Ole Fejer,
i´m a customer from germany and i have a question about your controller.
My car has the 722.636 in it and now i´m in to finish the harness and set up the controller/ ecu.
I have a 722.643 (Speedshift version E55 Kompressor) transmission sitting here. to rebuild it as a spare one.
Does it makes a difference if i will use the 636 or the 643 Speedshift transmission with your controller?
We can set up the shift pressure so is it possible to set the shifting speed too?
Thanks for your help mate.
Hi
Correct as what Evgenjy1987 wrote, the initial setup is the same.
A harder shift is an faster shift, you can not set the shift time, you can set how hard the shift should be.
But please do not adjust anything before first test drive. only setup TPS to go from 0-100% thats it then do testdrive.
And do not adjust firmness before you are at gearbox temp between 60-80.
Ole
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
09-06-2018, 03:08 AM
#273
I have this controller on my 606.910 about 3 years.
After all time and more 60000 km mielage with it I have to say some remark
- I not understand an algorithms of firmness, depending of temperature correction. For example my setting (sw 204) when it work somehow adequate is:
general firmness =4
line press max/min:
line low load =22
press low load = 32 it is for 1-2 2-1 2-3 3-2
temp line -20 deg = = -10
temp line 120 deg = 12
temp press -20 deg = -10
temp press 120 deg = 12
time to time it was hanging out when 3-2 shifting, so I changed line reg time from 10 to 12 ms, and it work
with this setting and it can shift without kiking with a quiet ride.
I want to see math formula for understanding how it tunes.
My general resentment is when you drive full throttle then release the pedal fast, you have hard shift. Some feel that controller is dicide to do shift with load, calculated with full throttle and not seen that when it do it, the throttle is off.
another situation - you start driving fast, with full throttle and next time you is pressing the brake pedal and there you feel boom, your transmission decide that you will drive on
Do not tell me about manual shift, because i drive mostly in the city with hard traffic
I ask Ole for use brake light signal to block shifting, but he didn't think it was necessary. Sad.
Hi all
I have this controller on my 606.910 about 3 years.
After all time and more 60000 km mielage with it I have to say some remark
- I not understand an algorithms of firmness, depending of temperature correction. For example my setting (sw 204) when it work somehow adequate is:
general firmness =4
line press max/min:
line low load =22
press low load = 32 it is for 1-2 2-1 2-3 3-2
temp line -20 deg = = -10
temp line 120 deg = 12
temp press -20 deg = -10
temp press 120 deg = 12
time to time it was hanging out when 3-2 shifting, so I changed line reg time from 10 to 12 ms, and it work
with this setting and it can shift without kiking with a quiet ride.
I want to see math formula for understanding how it tunes.
My general resentment is when you drive full throttle then release the pedal fast, you have hard shift. Some feel that controller is dicide to do shift with load, calculated with full throttle and not seen that when it do it, the throttle is off.
another situation - you start driving fast, with full throttle and next time you is pressing the brake pedal and there you feel boom, your transmission decide that you will drive on
Do not tell me about manual shift, because i drive mostly in the city with hard traffic
I ask Ole for use brake light signal to block shifting, but he didn't think it was necessary. Sad.
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