Think my trans is shot
Think my trans is shot
TIA Gentlemen
SicNick
06-10-2011, 05:46 PM #1Went for a drive in the samurai for the first time since I broke the intermediate shaft, while driving. When the transmission upshifts from second it revs up then never engages third gear...It just acts like it hits neutral again. Trans fluid level is good, recent fluid and filter change. Is there anything easy I can check before I hit the junkyards? If replacement is the most cost effective option, what MB automatics ( applications) will bolt up to my OM601? Is the bellhousing for my 4 cylinder and the 5 cylinder the same?
TIA Gentlemen
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
disconnect the kickdown and see what it does
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
(06-10-2011, 11:23 PM)Kozuka M10X/M111/OM60X share the same bellhousing
Sorryim not super knowledgable on all th MB lingo, is that basically all the newer engines? Ex. Not the 616,617,etc
what other Vehicle models would include those engines? to find a replacement? Thanks
(06-10-2011, 11:35 PM)dieselboy disconnect the kickdown and see what it does
I like your thinking but no change, just shifted super early, as you'd expect.
SicNick
06-11-2011, 05:22 PM #4(06-10-2011, 11:23 PM)Kozuka M10X/M111/OM60X share the same bellhousing
Sorryim not super knowledgable on all th MB lingo, is that basically all the newer engines? Ex. Not the 616,617,etc
what other Vehicle models would include those engines? to find a replacement? Thanks
(06-10-2011, 11:35 PM)dieselboy disconnect the kickdown and see what it does
I like your thinking but no change, just shifted super early, as you'd expect.
(06-11-2011, 05:22 PM)SicNick(06-10-2011, 11:23 PM)Kozuka M10X/M111/OM60X share the same bellhousing
Sorryim not super knowledgable on all th MB lingo, is that basically all the newer engines? Ex. Not the 616,617,etc
what other Vehicle models would include those engines? to find a replacement? Thanks
(06-10-2011, 11:35 PM)dieselboy disconnect the kickdown and see what it does
I like your thinking but no change, just shifted super early, as you'd expect.
Yeah, any 86-03 inline 4/5/6 cylinder gas & diesel share that same bellhousing om61X have the starter on the other side.
(06-11-2011, 05:22 PM)SicNick(06-10-2011, 11:23 PM)Kozuka M10X/M111/OM60X share the same bellhousing
Sorryim not super knowledgable on all th MB lingo, is that basically all the newer engines? Ex. Not the 616,617,etc
what other Vehicle models would include those engines? to find a replacement? Thanks
(06-10-2011, 11:35 PM)dieselboy disconnect the kickdown and see what it does
I like your thinking but no change, just shifted super early, as you'd expect.
Yeah, any 86-03 inline 4/5/6 cylinder gas & diesel share that same bellhousing om61X have the starter on the other side.
Wonder if there's a gasser trans that would fit this description?
SicNick
06-11-2011, 06:09 PM #6That's great news! So now I guess I'd be curious if there are any other models that I should look for since it needs to be replaced anyway... Same size would be choice with same output flange(because I already had mine machined to match a suzuki flange) an overdrive would be nice for me as I have plenty of low range from my 6.5 To 1 t-case
Wonder if there's a gasser trans that would fit this description?
Well, ideally then you would want the auto trans out of a W201 or W124 they are all pretty much the same from what I know. But I am by no means a automatic expert. Since you are just using a OM601 you shouldn't have any power issues, ideally you would look for one with the gearing you want, they are all 1:1 4th gear anyway. There is a 5 speed auto option but way too expensive unless your planning on pushing 500+ tq's. Just swap out your output flange to the trans, bung it in. Call it good.
1984 Mercedes 190D, A$$ Packed then totaled by ins. company.
However I was able to utilize it's heart to give life to...
1987 Suzuki Samurai, Powered by MB OM601 and 4 speed auto.
Converted by myself with homemade engine mounts and a custom intermediate shaft. Turbo charged with Mitsubishi Mighty Max Turbo and custom Intake plenum, exhaust manifold and top mount inter cooler.
So, as far as you know, there aren't any fully mechanical autos that will bolt up and have overdrive? That would be choice!
1984 Mercedes 190D, A$$ Packed then totaled by ins. company.
However I was able to utilize it's heart to give life to...
1987 Suzuki Samurai, Powered by MB OM601 and 4 speed auto.
Converted by myself with homemade engine mounts and a custom intermediate shaft. Turbo charged with Mitsubishi Mighty Max Turbo and custom Intake plenum, exhaust manifold and top mount inter cooler.
It's made for a 4000# car with a turbo 6 cylinder engine
If it would work for you let me know and ill let you test drive it before I sell it to you!
It will be a few weeks before I pull it out!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
06-15-2011, 11:19 AM #9I wonder if the auto I'm am about to pull out of my 300sdl it an om603 would work for you?
It's made for a 4000# car with a turbo 6 cylinder engine
If it would work for you let me know and ill let you test drive it before I sell it to you!
It will be a few weeks before I pull it out!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
1984 Mercedes 190D, A$$ Packed then totaled by ins. company.
However I was able to utilize it's heart to give life to...
1987 Suzuki Samurai, Powered by MB OM601 and 4 speed auto.
Converted by myself with homemade engine mounts and a custom intermediate shaft. Turbo charged with Mitsubishi Mighty Max Turbo and custom Intake plenum, exhaust manifold and top mount inter cooler.
Anyone see issue with using a '90 300E trans? Hopefully the external dimensions are the same and the splined output... Any leads for gear ratios in this trans?
1984 Mercedes 190D, A$$ Packed then totaled by ins. company.
However I was able to utilize it's heart to give life to...
1987 Suzuki Samurai, Powered by MB OM601 and 4 speed auto.
Converted by myself with homemade engine mounts and a custom intermediate shaft. Turbo charged with Mitsubishi Mighty Max Turbo and custom Intake plenum, exhaust manifold and top mount inter cooler.
Found this post, sounds like I should be in good shape! I found a couple 300e trannies locally for a decent price. I guess the only question left un answered is should I use my 190d TC or get the 300e TC with trans?
1984 Mercedes 190D, A$$ Packed then totaled by ins. company.
However I was able to utilize it's heart to give life to...
1987 Suzuki Samurai, Powered by MB OM601 and 4 speed auto.
Converted by myself with homemade engine mounts and a custom intermediate shaft. Turbo charged with Mitsubishi Mighty Max Turbo and custom Intake plenum, exhaust manifold and top mount inter cooler.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w201-190...-190d.html
Found this post, sounds like I should be in good shape! I found a couple 300e trannies locally for a decent price. I guess the only question left un answered is should I use my 190d TC or get the 300e TC with trans?
1984 Mercedes 190D, A$$ Packed then totaled by ins. company.
However I was able to utilize it's heart to give life to...
1987 Suzuki Samurai, Powered by MB OM601 and 4 speed auto.
Converted by myself with homemade engine mounts and a custom intermediate shaft. Turbo charged with Mitsubishi Mighty Max Turbo and custom Intake plenum, exhaust manifold and top mount inter cooler.
*quick side note for other swappers....
the gasser torque converter is larger in diameter than my diesel unit was and it wouldn't have fit inside my flywheel. So if you ever need to do what I did, keep your diesel converter!!!
1984 Mercedes 190D, A$$ Packed then totaled by ins. company.
However I was able to utilize it's heart to give life to...
1987 Suzuki Samurai, Powered by MB OM601 and 4 speed auto.
Converted by myself with homemade engine mounts and a custom intermediate shaft. Turbo charged with Mitsubishi Mighty Max Turbo and custom Intake plenum, exhaust manifold and top mount inter cooler.
Snagged a trans from a 88 260E for $200, swapped it right in with my diesel torque converter, No problems at all, would this trans have the same ratios as my 190d trans? if different what would the ratios be? Thanks
*quick side note for other swappers....
the gasser torque converter is larger in diameter than my diesel unit was and it wouldn't have fit inside my flywheel. So if you ever need to do what I did, keep your diesel converter!!!
1984 Mercedes 190D, A$$ Packed then totaled by ins. company.
However I was able to utilize it's heart to give life to...
1987 Suzuki Samurai, Powered by MB OM601 and 4 speed auto.
Converted by myself with homemade engine mounts and a custom intermediate shaft. Turbo charged with Mitsubishi Mighty Max Turbo and custom Intake plenum, exhaust manifold and top mount inter cooler.
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