7,5 mm Element design for high performance engine
7,5 mm Element design for high performance engine
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07-17-2013, 10:40 AM
#404
(07-17-2013, 06:56 AM)Domino81 Does anybody know at which turbo pressure (bar, psi) does the external ALDA valve open to deliver more fuel in dieselmeken's 140cc 7,5mm?Start at 0,3 and make max a b1- 1,5 bar
dieselmeken
07-17-2013, 10:40 AM #404(07-17-2013, 06:56 AM)Domino81 Does anybody know at which turbo pressure (bar, psi) does the external ALDA valve open to deliver more fuel in dieselmeken's 140cc 7,5mm?Start at 0,3 and make max a b1- 1,5 bar
07-18-2013, 01:59 PM
#406
Will test and let you know the outcome, If the same thing happens under load as well, than I assume exchanging it for a different one shouldn't be a rocket science?
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Strangely my ALDA actuator starts working @ about 2 bar - but it wansn't tested under load.. just free neutral revs..
Will test and let you know the outcome, If the same thing happens under load as well, than I assume exchanging it for a different one shouldn't be a rocket science?
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07-18-2013, 05:59 PM
#407
Does a '230cc' fuel pump move 230cc of fuel per cylinder per 1000 engine strokes?
Max
W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs
maxypriest
07-18-2013, 05:59 PM #407A basic question here... Apologies.
Does a '230cc' fuel pump move 230cc of fuel per cylinder per 1000 engine strokes?
Max
W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs
07-19-2013, 04:02 AM
#408
(07-18-2013, 05:59 PM)maxypriest A basic question here... Apologies.
Does a '230cc' fuel pump move 230cc of fuel per cylinder per 1000 engine strokes?
Max
230cc pr 1000 element stroke
(07-18-2013, 05:59 PM)maxypriest A basic question here... Apologies.
Does a '230cc' fuel pump move 230cc of fuel per cylinder per 1000 engine strokes?
Max
230cc pr 1000 element stroke
This post was last modified: 07-19-2013, 04:11 AM by EDH_Performance.
EDH_Performance
07-19-2013, 04:02 AM #408(07-18-2013, 05:59 PM)maxypriest A basic question here... Apologies.
Does a '230cc' fuel pump move 230cc of fuel per cylinder per 1000 engine strokes?
Max
230cc pr 1000 element stroke
(07-18-2013, 05:59 PM)maxypriest A basic question here... Apologies.
Does a '230cc' fuel pump move 230cc of fuel per cylinder per 1000 engine strokes?
Max
230cc pr 1000 element stroke
07-21-2013, 09:09 PM
#411
(07-19-2013, 01:48 PM)Turbo Some body here know how fare up in rpm Dieselmekens "280cc" pump can deliver?I know!
Tests in bench shows full fuel up to 6000 rpm so far, not ready yet
One 8mm 242cc 5cyl for OM605 did 7000rpm, that engine goes up in dyno around September-October
After vacation the 280 goes to pieces again, new set of elements vill go in it.
Moore to come, stay tuned.
dieselmeken
07-21-2013, 09:09 PM #411(07-19-2013, 01:48 PM)Turbo Some body here know how fare up in rpm Dieselmekens "280cc" pump can deliver?I know!
Tests in bench shows full fuel up to 6000 rpm so far, not ready yet
One 8mm 242cc 5cyl for OM605 did 7000rpm, that engine goes up in dyno around September-October
After vacation the 280 goes to pieces again, new set of elements vill go in it.
Moore to come, stay tuned.
07-22-2013, 02:58 AM
#412
(07-21-2013, 09:09 PM)dieselmeken(07-19-2013, 01:48 PM)Turbo Some body here know how fare up in rpm Dieselmekens "280cc" pump can deliver?I know!
Tests in bench shows full fuel up to 6000 rpm so far, not ready yet
One 8mm 242cc 5cyl for OM605 did 7000rpm, that engine goes up in dyno around September-October
After vacation the 280 goes to pieces again, new set of elements vill go in it.
Moore to come, stay tuned.
The Herlevi make 270cc fuel up to 6800rpm, if your 280CC pump can make full fuel up to 7000rpm it would be very interesting, please update us how it goes
(07-21-2013, 09:09 PM)dieselmeken(07-19-2013, 01:48 PM)Turbo Some body here know how fare up in rpm Dieselmekens "280cc" pump can deliver?I know!
Tests in bench shows full fuel up to 6000 rpm so far, not ready yet
One 8mm 242cc 5cyl for OM605 did 7000rpm, that engine goes up in dyno around September-October
After vacation the 280 goes to pieces again, new set of elements vill go in it.
Moore to come, stay tuned.
07-23-2013, 08:36 AM
#413
I ask as I have adapted the standard NA 606 mechanism for a turbo 606 intake, wondering if I need to make its range greater.
Regards,
Max
W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs
maxypriest
07-23-2013, 08:36 AM #413Goran – when you modify the pumps (8.0mm RS203) does the throttle lever on the pump move in a greater arc than compared with standard?
I ask as I have adapted the standard NA 606 mechanism for a turbo 606 intake, wondering if I need to make its range greater.
Regards,
Max
W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs
07-23-2013, 12:34 PM
#414
(07-23-2013, 08:36 AM)maxypriest Goran – when you modify the pumps (8.0mm RS203) does the throttle lever on the pump move in a greater arc than compared with standard?hi,
I ask as I have adapted the standard NA 606 mechanism for a turbo 606 intake, wondering if I need to make its range greater.
Regards,
Max
yea you will need more travel, i would think.
This post was last modified: 07-23-2013, 12:36 PM by mantahead.
(07-23-2013, 08:36 AM)maxypriest Goran – when you modify the pumps (8.0mm RS203) does the throttle lever on the pump move in a greater arc than compared with standard?hi,
I ask as I have adapted the standard NA 606 mechanism for a turbo 606 intake, wondering if I need to make its range greater.
Regards,
Max
yea you will need more travel, i would think.
07-26-2013, 06:43 AM
#415
(07-23-2013, 08:36 AM)maxypriest ...I have adapted the standard NA 606 mechanism for a turbo 606 intake, wondering if I need to make its range greater.
I did the same thing on my build...
Beers,
Matt
'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten
HoleshotHolset
07-26-2013, 06:43 AM #415(07-23-2013, 08:36 AM)maxypriest ...I have adapted the standard NA 606 mechanism for a turbo 606 intake, wondering if I need to make its range greater.
I did the same thing on my build...
Beers,
Matt
'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten
07-27-2013, 03:23 PM
#416
(07-22-2013, 02:58 AM)Turbo The Herlevi make 270cc fuel up to 6800rpm, if your 280CC pump can make full fuel up to 7000rpm it would be very interesting, please update us how it goesInjection pump it self is not the whole thing.
(07-21-2013, 09:09 PM)dieselmeken(07-19-2013, 01:48 PM)Turbo Some body here know how fare up in rpm Dieselmekens "280cc" pump can deliver?I know!
Tests in bench shows full fuel up to 6000 rpm so far, not ready yet
One 8mm 242cc 5cyl for OM605 did 7000rpm, that engine goes up in dyno around September-October
After vacation the 280 goes to pieces again, new set of elements vill go in it.
Moore to come, stay tuned.
This post was last modified: 07-27-2013, 03:24 PM by jeemu.
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
(07-22-2013, 02:58 AM)Turbo The Herlevi make 270cc fuel up to 6800rpm, if your 280CC pump can make full fuel up to 7000rpm it would be very interesting, please update us how it goesInjection pump it self is not the whole thing.
(07-21-2013, 09:09 PM)dieselmeken(07-19-2013, 01:48 PM)Turbo Some body here know how fare up in rpm Dieselmekens "280cc" pump can deliver?I know!
Tests in bench shows full fuel up to 6000 rpm so far, not ready yet
One 8mm 242cc 5cyl for OM605 did 7000rpm, that engine goes up in dyno around September-October
After vacation the 280 goes to pieces again, new set of elements vill go in it.
Moore to come, stay tuned.
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
07-28-2013, 08:20 AM
#417
(07-27-2013, 03:23 PM)jeemu Injection pump it self is not the whole thing.
Soo true! You must burn it aswell
EDH_Performance
07-28-2013, 08:20 AM #417(07-27-2013, 03:23 PM)jeemu Injection pump it self is not the whole thing.
Soo true! You must burn it aswell
09-06-2013, 07:17 AM
#418
New serie 7,5mm to the left & 8,0mm to the right. Arrived today, quality looks very good, quality test up next.
I come back with som results later on.
dieselmeken
09-06-2013, 07:17 AM #418
New serie 7,5mm to the left & 8,0mm to the right. Arrived today, quality looks very good, quality test up next.
I come back with som results later on.
09-06-2013, 01:26 PM
#420
Only one week left, and this badass of a pump wil be tested
EDH_Performance
09-06-2013, 01:26 PM #420Looks very good, is this from the new suplyer you was telling me about?
Only one week left, and this badass of a pump wil be tested
01-23-2014, 09:33 AM
#422
F-tune Performance
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I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
Dieselmeken is really the go to guy when it comes to driveable pumps. We have one 8mm 242cc and one 8mm 180cc on the dyno before summer. Both curtesy of Göran!
F-tune Performance
I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
04-28-2014, 11:10 AM
#425
Also a new improved 7,5mm 140cc is in da house, to be tested soon.
These elements can soon be purchased from me, How about that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJM2ASZri...e=youtu.be
dieselmeken
04-28-2014, 11:10 AM #425The 8 mm was OK in design and have worked OK in Engines, November 2013 a new element started to be designed, Now its ready and tested, 250cc of fuel, very good result.
Also a new improved 7,5mm 140cc is in da house, to be tested soon.
These elements can soon be purchased from me, How about that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJM2ASZri...e=youtu.be
04-28-2014, 02:48 PM
#426
(04-28-2014, 11:10 AM)dieselmeken The 8 mm was OK in design and have worked OK in Engines, November 2013 a new element started to be designed, Now its ready and tested, 250cc of fuel, very good result.
Also a new improved 7,5mm 140cc is in da house, to be tested soon.
These elements can soon be purchased from me, How about that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJM2ASZri...e=youtu.be
how high in rpm can it withhold that delivering?
(04-28-2014, 11:10 AM)dieselmeken The 8 mm was OK in design and have worked OK in Engines, November 2013 a new element started to be designed, Now its ready and tested, 250cc of fuel, very good result.
Also a new improved 7,5mm 140cc is in da house, to be tested soon.
These elements can soon be purchased from me, How about that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJM2ASZri...e=youtu.be
05-03-2014, 06:49 AM
#427
(04-28-2014, 02:48 PM)Turbo how high in rpm can it withhold that delivering?First tryout in testbench was 220cc @2,5bar inlet pressure 2800rpm (5600 Engine rpm), 1500rpm pump did 250cc, its a improvment anyway.
(04-28-2014, 11:10 AM)dieselmeken The 8 mm was OK in design and have worked OK in Engines, November 2013 a new element started to be designed, Now its ready and tested, 250cc of fuel, very good result.
Also a new improved 7,5mm 140cc is in da house, to be tested soon.
These elements can soon be purchased from me, How about that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJM2ASZri...e=youtu.be
dieselmeken
05-03-2014, 06:49 AM #427(04-28-2014, 02:48 PM)Turbo how high in rpm can it withhold that delivering?First tryout in testbench was 220cc @2,5bar inlet pressure 2800rpm (5600 Engine rpm), 1500rpm pump did 250cc, its a improvment anyway.
(04-28-2014, 11:10 AM)dieselmeken The 8 mm was OK in design and have worked OK in Engines, November 2013 a new element started to be designed, Now its ready and tested, 250cc of fuel, very good result.
Also a new improved 7,5mm 140cc is in da house, to be tested soon.
These elements can soon be purchased from me, How about that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJM2ASZri...e=youtu.be
06-26-2014, 02:56 PM
#428
Now I have reached the end,i dont Think the M-pump can do much Moore than this. Stroked camshaft,1mm higher lift, 17mm rollers, 8 mm element, cut deliveryvalves. almost 300cc with 210bar testinjectors, This is Black Smoke Racings pump for their OM606DI Project.
dieselmeken
06-26-2014, 02:56 PM #428http://youtu.be/83oaTB98VkA
Now I have reached the end,i dont Think the M-pump can do much Moore than this. Stroked camshaft,1mm higher lift, 17mm rollers, 8 mm element, cut deliveryvalves. almost 300cc with 210bar testinjectors, This is Black Smoke Racings pump for their OM606DI Project.
06-26-2014, 04:39 PM
#429
and what is the target price
(06-26-2014, 02:56 PM)dieselmeken http://youtu.be/83oaTB98VkA
Now I have reached the end,i dont Think the M-pump can do much Moore than this. Stroked camshaft,1mm higher lift, 17mm rollers, 8 mm element, cut deliveryvalves. almost 300cc with 210bar testinjectors, This is Black Smoke Racings pump for their OM606DI Project.
so High up in rpm can it hold that delivery?
and what is the target price
(06-26-2014, 02:56 PM)dieselmeken http://youtu.be/83oaTB98VkA
Now I have reached the end,i dont Think the M-pump can do much Moore than this. Stroked camshaft,1mm higher lift, 17mm rollers, 8 mm element, cut deliveryvalves. almost 300cc with 210bar testinjectors, This is Black Smoke Racings pump for their OM606DI Project.
06-27-2014, 01:58 AM
#432
(06-26-2014, 05:00 PM)MFSuper90 So whats next?
adapt a 12mm P7100 to a om606?
Yes. Thats the Winter Project.
After that I go for the commonrail conversion.
dieselmeken
06-27-2014, 01:58 AM #432(06-26-2014, 05:00 PM)MFSuper90 So whats next?
adapt a 12mm P7100 to a om606?
Yes. Thats the Winter Project.
After that I go for the commonrail conversion.
06-27-2014, 03:19 AM
#433
Will be interessting to see how the SuperStroker works with stroked DI engine
DiseaselWeasel
06-27-2014, 03:19 AM #433Are there any different requirements for injection pump for DI over IDI?
Will be interessting to see how the SuperStroker works with stroked DI engine
06-27-2014, 03:42 AM
#434
(06-27-2014, 03:19 AM)DiseaselWeasel Are there any different requirements for injection pump for DI over IDI?You need a quicker injection time in DI Engine, Distributor pumps type Bosch VE is quicker, but cant deliver this amount of fuel I Think. It will work, question is how much Power they will get, I doubt that it will give Moore Power than the IDI Engine, but I have done what i could whit this m-pump.
Will be interessting to see how the SuperStroker works with stroked DI engine
dieselmeken
06-27-2014, 03:42 AM #434(06-27-2014, 03:19 AM)DiseaselWeasel Are there any different requirements for injection pump for DI over IDI?You need a quicker injection time in DI Engine, Distributor pumps type Bosch VE is quicker, but cant deliver this amount of fuel I Think. It will work, question is how much Power they will get, I doubt that it will give Moore Power than the IDI Engine, but I have done what i could whit this m-pump.
Will be interessting to see how the SuperStroker works with stroked DI engine
06-27-2014, 04:37 AM
#435
If it solves overheating problems and prevents pistons from melting, I think they are a huge step forwards in terms of reliability
DiseaselWeasel
06-27-2014, 04:37 AM #435Thank you! So that's why Mercedes used VE pump on DI OM602 (290TD).
If it solves overheating problems and prevents pistons from melting, I think they are a huge step forwards in terms of reliability
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